Do you have your messages online to listen to or to read? I would have liked to hear your explanation for the exsistence of God. I have been a believer but for some years now, life has beaten me down and I'm seriously doubting God's reality. My scientific thought process is disproving it more than the bible is proving it. The absence of any assistance from an almighty makes me feel abandoned and then misled.
Hello and thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately we aren't quite there yet with having messages online to listen to - we hope to have that in the near future. Actually yesterday's message attempted to address the issue of "science disproving the idea of God." My main point was that evolution is as much a faith decision as believing there is a "supreme being" who created everything we see. When you drill down to the foundation of evolution as the origin of life, there are some things there that cannot be proven by science and so have to be taken by faith.
Timothy Keller deals with this idea in his book "The Reason for God." It is not an exhaustive volume by any means, and deals with many issues besides science and creation so it cannot go into great depth, but I think he raises good philosophical points that must be grappled with before the idea of God can be dismissed.
I am posting some other resources on the Current Series /"Go Deeper" page of our website so check there - they should be up by tomorrow.
It sounds like beyond the scientific questions, you are feeling left alone by God and I will not pretend to offer any easy answers for that. Many times God does not intervene in life the way we would like Him to. All I would offer there is that just as He has given us free will, He Himself operates with a free will that we sometimes don't agree with or understand.
It seems there are many of us that feel lost in our "lack" (self included). It is genuinely hard to see God when that God is one who has not been connected to us at all. I would enjoy a group discussion forum where those of us that feel genuinely lost in our faith can find a home that is truly non-threatening or filled with "well, it'll all work out, just have faith". The other week, we were directed to Hebrews 11 for some faith-oriented verses, and I found myself drawn to Hebrews 11:13 "These all died in faith, not having received what was promised..." Does that mean that truly there are many of us (perhaps more than we all realize) that simply will not achieve that joy and security that we as new believers all thought was going to be the story of our life? Would our God truly design us only to be made perfect as a piece of a very large puzzle? And that puzzle may not be fulfulled for generations?
I have realized in the past few years, that it is when God doesn't intervene that I learn the most and see the most from him. Recently I have been going through a lot of really tough things. I found myself at one point wondering "God, where are you?" However, it was then that I realized that he was right there with me. I think sometimes the things we go through are to teach us important things. For example: I have been on a total financial down slide for the past several weeks. I was debating on whether or not I was going to go on a trip that had been scheduled for months because of this. At the time, I truly didn't understand God's humor... however now, I see that he was only teaching me to rely on him. Though I am still financially in a bind, I was able to go on that trip because GOD PROVIDED the way. I truly feel that he was just trying to teach me to trust him more then I ever had before.
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ReplyDeleteDo you have your messages online to listen to or to read? I would have liked to hear your explanation for the exsistence of God. I have been a believer but for some years now, life has beaten me down and I'm seriously doubting God's reality. My scientific thought process is disproving it more than the bible is proving it. The absence of any assistance from an almighty makes me feel abandoned and then misled.
ReplyDeleteHello and thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately we aren't quite there yet with having messages online to listen to - we hope to have that in the near future. Actually yesterday's message attempted to address the issue of "science disproving the idea of God." My main point was that evolution is as much a faith decision as believing there is a "supreme being" who created everything we see. When you drill down to the foundation of evolution as the origin of life, there are some things there that cannot be proven by science and so have to be taken by faith.
ReplyDeleteTimothy Keller deals with this idea in his book "The Reason for God." It is not an exhaustive volume by any means, and deals with many issues besides science and creation so it cannot go into great depth, but I think he raises good philosophical points that must be grappled with before the idea of God can be dismissed.
I am posting some other resources on the Current Series /"Go Deeper" page of our website so check there - they should be up by tomorrow.
It sounds like beyond the scientific questions, you are feeling left alone by God and I will not pretend to offer any easy answers for that. Many times God does not intervene in life the way we would like Him to. All I would offer there is that just as He has given us free will, He Himself operates with a free will that we sometimes don't agree with or understand.
It seems there are many of us that feel lost in our "lack" (self included). It is genuinely hard to see God when that God is one who has not been connected to us at all. I would enjoy a group discussion forum where those of us that feel genuinely lost in our faith can find a home that is truly non-threatening or filled with "well, it'll all work out, just have faith". The other week, we were directed to Hebrews 11 for some faith-oriented verses, and I found myself drawn to Hebrews 11:13 "These all died in faith, not having received what was promised..." Does that mean that truly there are many of us (perhaps more than we all realize) that simply will not achieve that joy and security that we as new believers all thought was going to be the story of our life? Would our God truly design us only to be made perfect as a piece of a very large puzzle? And that puzzle may not be fulfulled for generations?
ReplyDeleteI have realized in the past few years, that it is when God doesn't intervene that I learn the most and see the most from him. Recently I have been going through a lot of really tough things. I found myself at one point wondering "God, where are you?" However, it was then that I realized that he was right there with me. I think sometimes the things we go through are to teach us important things. For example: I have been on a total financial down slide for the past several weeks. I was debating on whether or not I was going to go on a trip that had been scheduled for months because of this. At the time, I truly didn't understand God's humor... however now, I see that he was only teaching me to rely on him. Though I am still financially in a bind, I was able to go on that trip because GOD PROVIDED the way. I truly feel that he was just trying to teach me to trust him more then I ever had before.
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